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Post by Cure Dolly on Jul 22, 2013 11:08:00 GMT -8
I thought we might want to discuss the Question of the Ball of Neglect here. I wrote my humble thoughts on the main site and here I think is the nub of the riddle! What do you all think?
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Post by Cure Yasashiku on Jul 22, 2013 12:35:35 GMT -8
It is really fascinating, isn't it? I remember seeing these episodes, and being so very proud of Candy-chan. I will admit that I had not quite noticed the riddle that you mention regarding the Ball of Neglect. Now that you have so eloquently pointed it out, Dolly-chan, I am finding myself really pondering it. I was thinking of the usual episodes, where the Bad Enders send everyone into sadness and despair. In a way, the end result of the pure, idle pleasure is exactly the same as the end result of the despair. The people are tempted to stop trying and to stop making an effort. When caught in the Bad Enders spell, people usually start believing that their efforts are worthless, their attempts to be good do not matter.
In a way, that is the same thing that happens in the Ball of Neglect. People stop trying or caring. It seems that it is not the actual emotion that matters really. Idle pleasure *does* the same thing as despair. It seems that it is people stopping their efforts that is what creates bad energy and makes for a Bad End.
Or at least this is my own humble attempt to explain the riddle.
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Post by Fluffy the Cat on Jul 22, 2013 13:45:40 GMT -8
Heee....I am not convinced about the cookie though. Those looked like really small pieces of cookie when they were split up into six pieces.
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Post by Piffy the Puffin on Jul 22, 2013 15:51:07 GMT -8
It was small for the peeples but quite big for little Candy-chan!
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Post by Cure Dolly on Jul 22, 2013 15:59:21 GMT -8
Well interestingly Joker-san made a LONG speech in the next episode, when the girls were in the Ball of Neglect, telling them how pointless it was to ganbaru - to make any effort.
And that was exactly the theme of Wolfrun's first speech when he had made people fall into despair. It was also the theme of Candy's first brave stand against a terrifying enemy when she expounded the creed of ganbari.
So I think that is exactly right about the equivalence of the false despair and the false bliss. Amity and ganbari seem to be the two touchstones against which we can measure and reject falsehood whether the falsehood of despair or that of false bliss.
This is what I want to talk about in the second article, about episode 32.
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Post by Cure Yasashiku on Jul 22, 2013 17:33:20 GMT -8
Oh, what interesting connections. I look forward to your next article, Dolly-chan.
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